danielchrnko posted:

2. Fragile is THE BEST album. Followed by Year Zero than Downward Spiral.
3. Not a big fan of Further Down the Spiral.

Y34RZ3R0R3M1X3D >>> Things Falling Apart >>> Further Down The Spiral

SalavanteK posted:

I really think that new fans are far better off listening to the regular versions of Pretty Hate Machine and The Downward Spiral before even thinking about checking out the remastered versions.

I totally agree, I prefer the remaster of TDS, but it was also the first I heard, so I'll never really be able to appreciate the remaster to its fullest, when to my ears the original is simply a low fi version.

Sheepdean:I prefer the remaster of TDS, but it was also the first I heard, so I'll never really be able to appreciate the remaster to its fullest, when to my ears the original is simply a low fi version.

you must have "golden ears"? in all seriousness, what flaws does original TDS CD have? i understand previous albums sound a bit weird today, but TDS...

Again: Trent Reznor & Corey Taylor should work togehter and bring it to life

errrh...Stone Sour

SalavanteK posted:

Sheepdean posted:

Not FLAWED per se, but the remaster has more depth to it, to my ears. Obviously it's my opinion, and ideally both copies should always be available to everyone, but I'll always prefer the remaster.

Do you by any chance feel the same way about the remastered version of Pretty Hate Machine when compared to the original?

For PHM, it's more of a track by track basis - some tracks are improved by the remastering, but the culling of some samples has neutered other tracks. When a remaster is done well, it is normally an improvement, and thus far the NIN remasters have improved, except in the case of removing from the original.

I didn't follow the ARG (although I listened to the leaked songs planted on pen drives at concerts), and for a long time, I didn't like Year Zero the album at all. Maybe the ARG would have given me a deeper understanding of it.

The Slip and Ghosts just aren't that good.

Edit:
Also, even though I like them both, I can't tell the difference between Year Zero and With Teeth.



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The original songs that Trent covered recently (Immigrant Song, Zoo Station, Is Your Love Strong Enough) are still better than the covers.


And also, Johnny Cash's cover of Hurt is overrated.



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1. There is no NIN album that I dislike.
2. With Teeth does not get the credit it deserves. Ditto for The Slip. Simplicity can be a good thing...something is not necessarily better just because it is more complex.
3. Although it took me quite a while to warm up to it, Corona Radiata finally sank in fully; now I think it is a masterpiece. Every time I listen to it, I feel like my brain is getting a tune-up.
4. Where Is Everybody takes a beating, and I don't understand why. I love it!
5. The Wretched is a little overrated to me...Even Deeper is better.
6. TDS and YZ are the 2 albums that always listen to all the way through w/ no skipping, even though my most beloved songs are all on other albums. (Oh wait, Zero-Sum is an exception!)
7. Closer is treated unfairly due to being so overplayed and well-known. I think it is brilliant. The lyrics are great, and the gradual buildup of the music never fails to take me to an awesome place.
8. Ten Miles High is kickass. I don't get what people hate about this one.
9. I love The Perfect Drug. I would die happy if he would play it live just once.
10. Trent's best days musically are not behind him. I believe he has grown immensely, and as much as I love the pain and despair of earlier years, he has taken his work to a different level. It takes a certain amount of emotional maturity to appreciate, and of course some will just not like it due to personal taste. His later work just resonates with me, and I think he is on the verge of creating the music he was BORN to do.

tmoldovan posted:

The Slip and Ghosts just aren't that good.

Edit:
Also, even though I like them both, I can't tell the difference between Year Zero and With Teeth.

Really? When I first heard Year Zero I thought that it was a 90 degree turn from WT.

I never really like Jordie and Robin. I mean it's not personal, they just never fitted the NIN industrial setup.

And yeah ^ the rehearsals of The Slip are even better that the studio recordings

I don't really care about Trent's involvement in either The SN or The girl with tdt, since i could care less about the movies themselves. I will he did games like Alice instead of big hollywood movies.

I often wonder if fans of reaggeton, dancehall and/or dubstep would like Fixed. *Curious Face*

Sheepdean posted:

I consider Broken an LP.

Old-school albums (KISS, Van Halen, etc.) were about as long as Broken and had as many songs. I don't know what the criteria is to call something an "album" vs. ep.

Sheepdean posted:

I consider Broken an LP.

I'm with you there too. I actually dislike Broken being labeled as an EP. When I think second NIN album, I hardly think TDS.



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