TR writes Call of Duty:Black Ops II theme
 
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07/12/12 7:05 PM

I don't really care about Call of Duty. I'm just happy that there's going to be some new music. Theme song, HDA, and new NIN.

 

07/12/12 10:00 PM

Krazy95 posted:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQv90T800kw

^^^ Not sure how much of Trent's work is in this since I can't hear any "aggressively sounding guitar rock that incorporates bass and drums", but sure as fuck can't wait to hear it. The way he puts it sounds like a bit of departure from Ghosts and the scores (as Patrick_Nicholas already mentioned).

I like the sound of that. Hopefully new NIN will be aggressive. More aggressive guitars and percussion TR please!

 

07/15/12 12:30 AM

I think very few of us much care for Call of Duty, but it's not a big deal and I'm happy to hear any new material from Trent. Is Activision a horrible company within the gaming industry? Yeah. Does that mean we should be disappointed in Trent for working with them? No. I don't think we have any right to be. Most people don't know all the fucked up shit Activision has done, and most people don't care. You shouldn't expect someone as busy as Trent to know these things.

Happy to hear the How to Destroy Angels album is nearing release, and even happier still to hear that new Nine Inch Nails material is 'in gestation'.

 

07/15/12 1:28 AM

HurtNoMore posted:
rodeh,

We haven't seen the game yet. I wouldn't be suprised if TR is wary of it's subject matter, and expects BO II to be different in some meaningful way.

Kudos to the people for pointing out that Activision is the distributor, not the developer. The developer has little to no control over how their shit is marketed, just like any musician signed to a major label.

The developer also has little to no control over their time constraints or what the publisher wants in terms of rehash, which is why I don't expect this game to be much better.

 

07/16/12 6:21 PM

I'm excited...I don't really care about the game...but it's awesome he's still making music

 

07/16/12 11:08 PM

chadmarkmurray posted:
I think this is looking a little too deeply to be honest we all know Trent likes video games and that's all this is about. As the other guys said I don't know if he ever claimed to be "a left-wing radical"

In regards to what you said in general, the Occupy movement was stupid, they were never really going to achieve much and should have just carried on working and studying to work on creating a better world for themselves in the future rather than squandering their hours on protesting against the most greedy and ignorant people in society.

Furthermore, Bush was a fool every sane person on this planet knew that...All he ever did was provide people like Seth Macfarlane with instant material and the whole NIN being used as torture thing would probably offend any artist to say that their music is torture and I don't think anyone ever wants to be in any way responsible for torturing someone.

Some of what you say about the whole Activision/COD thing is true though but, is Trent aware of that? ...and could he not just be thinking of this as a video game he likes to play being a platform for his music to be heard and for his music to enhance something he enjoys. I personally, don't think it means he agrees with anything Oliver North says or does at all that guy is a slimey dousche, I don't think all of the millions of people who have played the game across the world all think of it in those terms either so maybe Trent doesn't.

Anyway, I'm not trying to rant at you, but, I hope reading everyone's replies will kind of restore your faith a bit and show that Trent doesn't seem to have betrayed any of his ideologies (in my opinion.) though, the fact that he is married and now has kids would probably explain some changes that my occur now and in the future...

ps.The main thing to remember is that we're getting new music (again.)and like HEALTH's awesome new Max Payne 3 Soundtrack I'm not actually going to play the game but, I'm just going to listen to the theme and enjoy it so perhaps looking at it in that sense may be better...

I know that it's because I follow video game news so closely I immediately picked this up, and you're right he may not be aware. I don't think you're 'ranting' at me smiling smiley , and you're right it's not a betrayal as such. I guess I just always felt TR had a fairly strong moral stance on a lot of things (some I don't agree with, but hey at least he stuck to his guns). But this just felt a little off to me... but you're right, at the end of the day all I want is a new NIN album. This is just a distraction that annoys me, but what can I do? (Except not buy BOII, which I decided I was doing after Oliver North got involved). Also, play Max Payne 3... it's awesome!

rodheh posted:
SWF18 posted:
rodheh posted:
Honestly as this sunk in, I had to say something. I'm pretty disappointed in this move.

Not because he's doing the theme for a CoD game. I've listened to music for games I don't care for before, that's nothing new, and I'm sure his theme will be great. It's also not because he's "selling out" or anything like that.

But it's because in the past TR was quoted saying this.


This was the first thing that came to my mind when i saw the news about COD. I don't really understand. I've rationalized it out (personally) since then.


Really the only rationalization would be that either Trent lied/was misquoted, has changed his mind since then or is doing this ironically and the theme song will end up consisting of fart noises or something and the CoD players won't even notice the difference since they're all listening to Dubstep anyways. Then we'll all have a good laugh.

That's a part of what I mean actually ... why bother fighting for change at all if you're just going to go with the flow down the road. Surely he can see how hypocritical this is? I'm not a fan who worships TR like a god, but I feel a bit like I was sold a lie by his previous rebelling.

Sigh... as I said to chadmarkmurray, this sucks, it annoys me but I haven't given up on NIN. I just won't believe TR as easily in the future, he's part of the problem now. He's still an amazing musician though.

 

07/17/12 4:47 AM

I'm happy Trent has worked on some music for a new video game, though I've never played Call of Duty. Sure, I feel concerned with what I've read on Activision, but I didn't know it and maybe Trent didn't know it neither. And maybe some fans take all this too seriously: make up your own mind, fight for your convictions, but don't expect your favorite musicians to be saints or whatever. They're humans. All humans disappoint me one day or another, even me.tongue sticking out smiley Anyway, I'm pretty sure Trent Reznor hasn't become an evil conservative right-wing asshole. tongue sticking out smiley

 

07/17/12 6:01 PM

Would you be as pissed if he did a track for The Dark Knight Rises? It's the same shit. He already did a track for Tomb Raider(the movie), so let's not get all high and mighty.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/17/2012 06:01PM by HurtNoMore.

 

07/17/12 9:49 PM

HurtNoMore posted:
Would you be as pissed if he did a track for The Dark Knight Rises? It's the same shit. He already did a track for Tomb Raider(the movie), so let's not get all high and mighty.

IMHO the problem with him doing this is that TR who was once highly critical of the conservative Bush government but is now backing a game made by possibly the least socially responsible video game company which churns out sequels and hires a war criminal to promote their products. He has a dig at guys like Chris Cornell for making a shit album and pandering to the the mainstream, but then TR goes and does the same thing. It's not a huge deal, he's not our lord and saviour or a bad guy... but he is a hypocrite.

 

07/17/12 10:46 PM

What the hell is a socially responsible video game company, it sounds awful?

 

07/18/12 1:22 AM

I think a few people here are over analysing Reznors decision to make the theme for the new COD game. Very simply put, he is a gamer, it is a series he has played and enjoyed, it isn't like he hasn't done something like this before; Deep is a prime example of this. He has worked on major hollywood films and been signed to a major label too, so I fail to see how this is a compromise.

I am generally stoked to finally be hearing some new material, as well as the good news that there is more on the way.

 

07/18/12 11:54 AM

HurtNoMore posted:
Would you be as pissed if he did a track for The Dark Knight Rises? It's the same shit. He already did a track for Tomb Raider(the movie), so let's not get all high and mighty.

Actually no, it isn't the same shit at all. It's only the same shit if your view on it is that TR is "selling out", which to be honest if someone's thinking of the situation like that I'm surprised they figured out how to work a computer and register at this forum.



The Dark Knight is awesome. CoD is rehash. TR once states that rehash was a bad thing. There's a big difference.

I don't know who is "pissed" at the decision. I do know a lot of us are confused at it.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/18/2012 11:55AM by rodheh.

 

07/18/12 12:42 PM

rodheh posted:
The Dark Knight is awesome. CoD is rehash. TR once states that rehash was a bad thing. There's a big difference.

There have been eight Batman movies(including TDKR), so how they not rehashes? The COD series sports tweaks on the same themes, just like the Batman movies. They are both currently the most financially successful franchises of their respective mediums. Independent of our personal feelings about them, I think the comparison between franchises is pretty solid.

 

07/18/12 1:07 PM

HurtNoMore posted:
rodheh posted:
The Dark Knight is awesome. CoD is rehash. TR once states that rehash was a bad thing. There's a big difference.

There have been eight Batman movies(including TDKR), so how they not rehashes? The COD series sports tweaks on the same themes, just like the Batman movies. They are both currently the most financially successful franchises of their respective mediums. Independent of our personal feelings about them, I think the comparison between franchises is pretty solid.

You're derailing this thread. However, The Dark Knight is awesome, and better than the previous Batman movies. Now, could we go back to the subject, please? tongue sticking out smiley

 

07/18/12 4:04 PM

Behind the Scenes with Trent Reznor & David S. Goyer - Official Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 Video

[www.youtube.com]

 

07/18/12 4:09 PM

HurtNoMore posted:
rodheh posted:
The Dark Knight is awesome. CoD is rehash. TR once states that rehash was a bad thing. There's a big difference.

There have been eight Batman movies(including TDKR), so how they not rehashes? The COD series sports tweaks on the same themes, just like the Batman movies. They are both currently the most financially successful franchises of their respective mediums. Independent of our personal feelings about them, I think the comparison between franchises is pretty solid.

Batman (1989) through Batman & Robin = seperate franchise with shitty rehashed sequals (a.k.a. milking it).

Batman Begins through The dark Knight Rises = seperate awesome franchise telling a complete story through three movies.

 

07/18/12 4:18 PM

Trent Reznor is no stranger to composing for video games. Hopefully this "aggressive sounding" theme song will sound like his Quake theme, or even some of the harder Ghosts songs.

 

07/18/12 4:27 PM

Krazy95 posted:
Batman (1989) through Batman & Robin = seperate franchise with shitty rehashed sequals (a.k.a. milking it).

Batman Begins through The dark Knight Rises = seperate awesome franchise telling a complete story through three movies.

You say tomato i say tomatoe... Many would make the arguement that COD MW2 was the best, hence not a rehash, but that is BS. However whereas quality is subjective, a retelling of the same basic story is an objective fact, that's why the Dark Knight especially was a re-hash (for better or for worse). I'm only pointing this out to demonstrate that hating on something for being a sequel, without having seen it, is silly.

I think the The original Burton Batman was the best, followed by the Batman Begins. The Dark Knight was just another silly action movie that got more credit than it deserved because one of its stars croaked.

Back to NIN...Listening to that Youtube clip it the director says he's (trent) is doing the soundrack. I thought it was only a couple of songs?



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 07/18/2012 04:38PM by HurtNoMore.

 

07/18/12 4:47 PM

I think you can cross the Batman movie off the list of things you can be okay with Trent scoring, because a SOPA supporter is in it.

And I'm pretty sure NIN still has a Facebook, so do many of you people. [I don't have one, BTW] FB supports CISPA, but TR scored the movie about its creators.


If you're going to disapprove of whatever music projects he may be working on, over controversies associated with things The Man is doing music for, you might as well just play the 7 Degrees of Trent Reznor game in reverse.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/18/2012 04:52PM by patrick_nicholas.

 

07/18/12 6:13 PM

patrick_nicholas posted:
I think you can cross the Batman movie off the list of things you can be okay with Trent scoring, because a SOPA supporter is in it.

Don't you think MGM and Columbia are SOPA suporters too? They were the companys behind GWTDT.

I agree with your point about the 7 degrees of TR in reverse.

 

07/18/12 11:06 PM

I wish TR would get back to doing what he's best at, and that's NIN. The movies scores were good, HTDA is good, NIN is best. I guess I'm just suffering from the lack of thrill a new NIN album brings.

 

07/18/12 11:40 PM

patrick_nicholas posted:
I think you can cross the Batman movie off the list of things you can be okay with Trent scoring, because a SOPA supporter is in it.

And I'm pretty sure NIN still has a Facebook, so do many of you people. [I don't have one, BTW] FB supports CISPA, but TR scored the movie about its creators.


If you're going to disapprove of whatever music projects he may be working on, over controversies associated with things The Man is doing music for, you might as well just play the 7 Degrees of Trent Reznor game in reverse.

SOPA is one thing. Writing the soundtrack for an ultra-conservative game being promoted by Olivier Norht, a guy that sold weapons to Iran and helped the Contra army Nicaraguan kill civilians and sell insane amounts of cocaine. This is more than "They're killing YouTube!!!" it's "This guy has a fuck load of blood on his hands. He should help us sell the next Call of Duty!!!"

 

07/19/12 3:17 AM

^^^
how do you know how ultra conservative the game is, have you played it?
Why is it ok for Bane in the new Dark Knight film to be evil and a 'leader of the oppressed masses' (99%) but when Call of Duty has the 99% it is conservative apologists?
war hasn't only been fought by right wingers. Britain was taken into the Iraq war by a supposed left wing government
My brother plays Call of Duty and he has a masters degree in aerospace engineering, I'd wager he's as clever as the majority of people on this board
Obama still hasn't closed down Guantanamo and he's a democrat

Anyway I just don't think things are as black and white as you do trusty panda

EDIT turns out writer of Black Ops 1 & 2 wrote Batman Begins and Dark Knight Rises scripts - so Nolan fanboys have no leg to stand on



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/19/2012 04:59AM by WorzelG.

 

07/19/12 5:13 AM

WorzelG posted:
^^^
how do you know how ultra conservative the game is, have you played it?
Why is it ok for Bane in the new Dark Knight film to be evil and a 'leader of the oppressed masses' (99%) but when Call of Duty has the 99% it is conservative apologists?
war hasn't only been fought by right wingers. Britain was taken into the Iraq war by a supposed left wing government
My brother plays Call of Duty and he has a masters degree in aerospace engineering, I'd wager he's as clever as the majority of people on this board
Obama still hasn't closed down Guantanamo and he's a democrat

Anyway I just don't think things are as black and white as you do trusty panda

EDIT turns out writer of Black Ops 1 & 2 wrote Batman Begins and Dark Knight Rises scripts - so Nolan fanboys have no leg to stand on

So, I can play Call of Duty? Oh, and my brother has played Call of Duty, and he has a master in linguistics. Whatever, you guys make me laugh. I mean, Trent Reznor has worked on game soundtracks in the past, and you're saying he's a hypocrite and he has sold out. That's funny, really. And well, will the next Call of Duty really be promoted by Oliver Norht? Trent Reznor will promote an ultra-conservative game, is that it? I think this discussion is going a little too far.

 

07/19/12 5:24 AM

^^^
I'm not slagging trent off at all for it, I'm pointing out people's hypocrisy in thinking 'this good this bad' in a black and white way. I'll probably even buy the game

Phew thanks, thought I was going a bit mad then
Vvvvv



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/19/2012 05:46AM by WorzelG.

 

07/19/12 5:41 AM

Yeah, I know. I wasn't clear enough probably: I was talking of other people in this thread.

 

07/19/12 6:00 AM

HurtNoMore posted:
patrick_nicholas posted:
I think you can cross the Batman movie off the list of things you can be okay with Trent scoring, because a SOPA supporter is in it.

Don't you think MGM and Columbia are SOPA suporters too? They were the companys behind GWTDT.

I agree with your point about the 7 degrees of TR in reverse.

I wish you could 'like' posts on nin.com because I agree with both of you entirely. I think anyone would be hard put to work on anything in Hollywood without having some link to political wrongdoing somewhere

 

07/19/12 11:11 AM

Normally I have to pipe in the NIN during COD sessions. This should make things more convenient.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/19/2012 11:14AM by HurtNoMore.

 

07/19/12 11:38 AM

HurtNoMore posted:
rodheh posted:
The Dark Knight is awesome. CoD is rehash. TR once states that rehash was a bad thing. There's a big difference.

There have been eight Batman movies(including TDKR), so how they not rehashes? The COD series sports tweaks on the same themes, just like the Batman movies. They are both currently the most financially successful franchises of their respective mediums. Independent of our personal feelings about them, I think the comparison between franchises is pretty solid.

Because every reboot series of Batman has made significant changes to the style. I have not seen this with CoD since CoD 4. Not to mention personally I think CoD isn't fun to play anymore, but that's beside the point. The point is that it fits thoroughly in line with what he said was wrong in the past. The whole thing about "spending money on rendering" (i.e. cutscenes, graphics) but having "the same game mechanic".

Also, anyone who really thinks there's any sort of political affiliation behind the game (this whole "Trent supporting an ultra-conservative game" ) is either a fucking moron, or preferably a troll. There's really no nicer way to say that. That sort of thought is in line with Rush Limbaugh saying TDKR is Obama re-election propaganda.



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 07/19/2012 11:44AM by rodheh.

 

07/20/12 11:15 AM

I want the score to anything Trent Reznor does. I love being immersed in whatever mood he decides to create with his music. The stuff without words is the most powerful to me. It seems to activate a different part of the listening experience on the "feeling" end of the spectrum which I am incredibly sensitive to.

 
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