chadmarkmurray posted:I think this is looking a little too deeply to be honest we all know Trent likes video games and that's all this is about. As the other guys said I don't know if he ever claimed to be "a left-wing radical"
In regards to what you said in general, the Occupy movement was stupid, they were never really going to achieve much and should have just carried on working and studying to work on creating a better world for themselves in the future rather than squandering their hours on protesting against the most greedy and ignorant people in society.
Furthermore, Bush was a fool every sane person on this planet knew that...All he ever did was provide people like Seth Macfarlane with instant material and the whole NIN being used as torture thing would probably offend any artist to say that their music is torture and I don't think anyone ever wants to be in any way responsible for torturing someone.
Some of what you say about the whole Activision/COD thing is true though but, is Trent aware of that? ...and could he not just be thinking of this as a video game he likes to play being a platform for his music to be heard and for his music to enhance something he enjoys. I personally, don't think it means he agrees with anything Oliver North says or does at all that guy is a slimey dousche, I don't think all of the millions of people who have played the game across the world all think of it in those terms either so maybe Trent doesn't.
Anyway, I'm not trying to rant at you, but, I hope reading everyone's replies will kind of restore your faith a bit and show that Trent doesn't seem to have betrayed any of his ideologies (in my opinion.) though, the fact that he is married and now has kids would probably explain some changes that my occur now and in the future...
ps.The main thing to remember is that we're getting new music (again.)and like HEALTH's awesome new Max Payne 3 Soundtrack I'm not actually going to play the game but, I'm just going to listen to the theme and enjoy it so perhaps looking at it in that sense may be better...
I know that it's because I follow video game news so closely I immediately picked this up, and you're right he may not be aware. I don't think you're 'ranting' at me

, and you're right it's not a betrayal as such. I guess I just always felt TR had a fairly strong moral stance on a lot of things (some I don't agree with, but hey at least he stuck to his guns). But this just felt a little off to me... but you're right, at the end of the day all I want is a new NIN album. This is just a distraction that annoys me, but what can I do? (Except not buy BOII, which I decided I was doing after Oliver North got involved). Also, play Max Payne 3... it's awesome!
rodheh posted:SWF18 posted:rodheh posted:Honestly as this sunk in, I had to say something. I'm pretty disappointed in this move.
Not because he's doing the theme for a CoD game. I've listened to music for games I don't care for before, that's nothing new, and I'm sure his theme will be great. It's also not because he's "selling out" or anything like that.
But it's because in the past TR was quoted saying
this.
This was the first thing that came to my mind when i saw the news about COD. I don't really understand. I've rationalized it out (personally) since then.
Really the only rationalization would be that either Trent lied/was misquoted, has changed his mind since then or is doing this ironically and the theme song will end up consisting of fart noises or something and the CoD players won't even notice the difference since they're all listening to Dubstep anyways. Then we'll all have a good laugh.
That's a part of what I mean actually ... why bother fighting for change at all if you're just going to go with the flow down the road. Surely he can see how hypocritical this is? I'm not a fan who worships TR like a god, but I feel a bit like I was sold a lie by his previous rebelling.
Sigh... as I said to chadmarkmurray, this sucks, it annoys me but I haven't given up on NIN. I just won't believe TR as easily in the future, he's part of the problem now. He's still an amazing musician though.