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10/22/08 4:15 AM

soulseek leak of the vinyl in FLAC quality

it's strange to hear 20 extra seconds of TDTWWA or a 6 minute even deeper or ripe.

favorite NIN work to me, the right side i've grown to like the most. the left has the classics but the right is more i dunno, soundscapy. kinda like left-right brain patterns.

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10/26/08 9:44 PM

abortive posted:
soulseek leak of the vinyl in FLAC quality

it's strange to hear 20 extra seconds of TDTWWA or a 6 minute even deeper or ripe.

favorite NIN work to me, the right side i've grown to like the most. the left has the classics but the right is more i dunno, soundscapy. kinda like left-right brain patterns.

Well said; they're like two different hemispheres of the same globe . .

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10/27/08 4:28 AM

i hope Trent isnt having hard time trying desperately to surpass Fragile.

personally i find it shame that he chose not to go into direction of Still.

not that i'm not happy with post-Fragile works, of course.

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10/28/08 8:07 AM

True, well put. One thing we all have to understand is that, thuogh we all love the Fragile, it was more of a collaboritive work than anything he's done.
My understanding was that the key players had they're own rooms, and Trent would normally lock up with Keith and Alan in the control room. He would still have final say on what was NIN, but other people helped write parts for the songs.

Somewhat Damaged was half written by Danny Lohner. The credits are in the booklet - bottom line, he hasn't done anything really collaboritive like that until Ghosts. With Teeth and Year Zero are all Trent, and the music doesn't suffer at all. but you don't get the chemistry of multiple attitudes and moods going into the music. It's a singular mood and focus, which is cool, again the music doesn't suffer. But I've got a friend who's just waiting on the next Fragile to come out, and I keep having to explain to him that it's never going to happen.

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10/28/08 8:15 AM

The Fragile is very emotional :O

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10/28/08 9:17 AM

the song the fragile is most definitely my favorite NIN song because it's so sincere and just, beautiful.

along the lines of a favorite NIN album, it's hard for me to decide, but the fragile is most definitley up there.
[i can honestly put it aboive yz and the slip.]

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10/28/08 11:07 AM

I love this album because it's like a beautiful and scary walk through the wilderness of a human heart. Minus Starfuckers, that song ain't so great.

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10/28/08 11:16 AM

Hate to admit this, but The fragile is the only Nine Inch Nails album I've never heard, let alone owned – including the remix albums. So I've heard the versions on Things falling apart, the live songs on And all that could have been, and the couple of reworkings on Still, but never the album itself. I'm hoping to remedy this soon …

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10/28/08 11:35 AM

Def one of the greatest, i think that cd has changed alot of peoples lives.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/28/2008 11:35AM by NINqueen.

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10/29/08 6:43 AM

tenmileshigh117@yahoo.com posted:
True, well put. One thing we all have to understand is that, thuogh we all love the Fragile, it was more of a collaboritive work than anything he's done.
My understanding was that the key players had they're own rooms, and Trent would normally lock up with Keith and Alan in the control room. He would still have final say on what was NIN, but other people helped write parts for the songs.

Somewhat Damaged was half written by Danny Lohner. The credits are in the booklet - bottom line, he hasn't done anything really collaboritive like that until Ghosts. With Teeth and Year Zero are all Trent, and the music doesn't suffer at all. but you don't get the chemistry of multiple attitudes and moods going into the music. It's a singular mood and focus, which is cool, again the music doesn't suffer. But I've got a friend who's just waiting on the next Fragile to come out, and I keep having to explain to him that it's never going to happen.

that's interesting facts/stories, thanx. and agree with you.


essentially it's NIN = Trent, always has been, will always be. it has both advantages and disadvantages, but same can be said to having almost permanently fixed band members. so you cant say which is better/worse really. and it's a fact that Trent has been working with so many great musicians, giving great varieties and possibilities to his music, which is exciting and exactly what we're getting as forms of albums and concerts etc.

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11/01/08 8:00 PM

Here's my editor videos of the Fragile era at IMEEM (not YouTube).

Use MP3 audio, and MPEG video from Windows Movie Maker.

Into The Void (Sega Reznor's Edit)

Starsuckers, Inc. (w/ censored video and explicit audio remastered)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/01/2008 07:09PM by Sega-Reznor.

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11/01/08 7:06 PM

I sang I'm Looking Forward To Joining You, Finally, and played a dramatically down-tuned acoustic guitar behind it for a compulsary singing exam in college. I got a distinction grinning smiley


Life changing song & lyrics, to me, personally.

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11/01/08 8:07 PM

TH FRAGILE = GREATEST THING SINCE PB&J

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11/01/08 7:09 PM

maybe the should have an "e" then.

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11/01/08 7:12 PM

Maybe PxN should lay off the 'e'.

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11/03/08 7:13 PM

kacy posted:
I love this album because it's like a beautiful and scary walk through the wilderness of a human heart.

Awesome......

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11/03/08 9:15 PM

PxN posted:
TH FRAGILE = GREATEST THING SINCE PB&J

pb&j aint got shit on the fragile. its definitely the sexiest album on the planet. 99% of the album goes together perfectly, i've never heard anything like it. The first NIN song i ever heard was starfuckers inc. and i loved it,but after listening to the fragile all the way through and then hearing starfuckers i just kinda went...what..the FUCK.
it didn't fit. but its still a great song.

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11/03/08 9:21 PM

It confuses me when people say "The Fragile" is crap... I think it truly is a masterpiece like other people have said in this thread. It has some beautiful and moving songs that I still listen to all the time. Sure, there are a few songs I don't care for off this album, but for the most part it's amazing.

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11/03/08 9:58 PM

blobbyxl posted:
I would love to hear I'm Looking Forward to Joining You, Finally live

Me too. To me it's the greatest album i've ever heard; I can relate to it on many levels.
Having said that, songs like 'I'm Looking Forward to Joining You, Finally' I find hard to listen to alot simply because they're so emotional. That's a compliment though, not alot of music can affect me the way The Fragile does, and to me, that kind of emotional depth is the most integral part of what makes an exceptional album.

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11/06/08 11:10 AM

Last Post - very well said. Though . ., I don't forsee Trent playing that song live . . .

But, I am trying to put together a set at my local guitar center (probably centered around the next NIN release, so as to promote NIN and Fallacy at the same time) where I will only play 'I'm Looking Forward to Joining You, Finally' and 'Ripe (with decay)'. I think it would be interesting, because unless there are a lot of hardcore NIN fans there, I don't forsee too many people recognizing those 2 tracks . .. I would have to record the session into Pro Tools and release them as remixes on my remix profile here . . That could be very cool, and I would do both of those songs justice . .

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11/06/08 5:46 PM

Billy Corgan advertised Mellon Collie and The Infinite Sadness as the greatest double album since The Wall.

5 years later, The Fragile is released as The Smashing Pumpkins are breaking up...

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11/06/08 5:51 PM

Kid IRA1 posted:
Billy Corgan advertised Mellon Collie and The Infinite Sadness as the greatest double album since The Wall.

5 years later, The Fragile is released as The Smashing Pumpkins are breaking up...

I have never heard anything that makes that much sense.

Sweet! This was my 900th post!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/06/2008 05:54PM by Doomguy13.

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11/10/08 1:53 PM

erkron posted:
I bought The Fragile when I was in high school, but I didn't really listen to it then. I think I liked Starfuckers, but that was it. I remember trying to listen to the album during an 8 hour train ride, but I just wasn't interested. I was too impatient at the time--I was at a different point in my life than the album. I was still listening to TDS and other bands even though I'd loved NIN for so many years. I didn't think it was a bad album, I just wasn't ready for it. Even when With Teeth came out, I was still elsewhere, not ready to listen. When Year Zero was released, I fell in love all over again. I was finally ready to listen to the years that I was occupied by other music.

The Fragile is such a beautiful piece of work. There isn't a song on it that I want to skip. Whenever a song from it comes up on my playlist, I tend to take random off just to listen to the rest of the cd. Just like everyone else, the songs mean something to me on a personal level, and it's hard for me to believe that it took me 8 years to finally "listen" to it.

Pretty much the same here for me and really, it's been about 8 years for me too. I remember being at parties and it was always playing in the background so it came with some good memories. There were a couple of tracks that I would listen to on repeat but never the whole thing. After I just saw NIN live on Wednesday, I broke it back out and it affected me a totally different way than it did before. I really can't even put into words how great it is. I always loved it, but never really sat and listened to it straight through. I don't understand how I could go through all these years without it now. Maybe all the crap music I was forced to listen to in college warped my mind. Luckily, I'm better now it is probably my all time favorite album and I really don't ever see that changing. I also think it is definitely, without a doubt, his best work. I wonder if Trent knows how his music affects people.....?

(Okay, blubbering, in-love-fan done now)

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11/10/08 7:29 PM

The Fragile is hands down the most beautiful album ever created. I have so many memories when I listen to the songs. The lyrics throughout the album evoke such emotion! Ah, I love it!

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11/11/08 12:26 AM

The Fragile is special to me partly because it came out during a time when music largely sucked (nu-metal, I'm glaring at you). I was 16 when it came out, and being a relatively new NIN fan, extremely excited about it. Right after it came out, I underwent eye surgery. I was pretty much stuck in bed for a week due to double vision and too-strong prescription painkillers. I had three CDs in my stereo playing on infinite repeat: the two discs of The Fragile and My Aim is True by Elvis Costello (another one of my favorite records, but that's neither here nor there).

Being stuck in bed gave me the unique opportunity to really get to know the record. Unlike some of my friends and classmates, I had the patience and the interest to give a double album a fair hearing. Even after I'd fully recuperated, I never got tired of it. I'd listen to it on the way to school--I have a fond memory of walking to my locker with "No, You Don't" blasting in my ears. I'd work out theories regarding the song progression. Around this time, I also started getting involved online, and worked up the nerve to start posting on the nin.com boards.

tl;dr The Fragile enriched my life, and I'm long overdue for another in-depth listen, if only to remind myself of why and how.

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11/11/08 11:18 AM

By far, the fragile is my fav. Nin album of all time, right on top of year zero. I enoy the fact that most of the songs have a large emotional tie to pure anger, while others are more sad and mellow. I remeber when i bought this album and how it honestly took my breath away due to it's uniqueness :-p I drove home listining to the left first. I must have pressed back about 6 times on "somewhat damaged" while i was screaming the the last parts of it with Trent. One song however, honestly bought me to near tears which was "were in this together"...
It's simply hot sex for your ears IMO...

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11/14/08 12:49 AM

thaumael posted:
i think anyone who acctually gives a shit about NIN would recognize "i'm looking forward to joing you finally " in two notes, its definatly one of my favorites.

mind you non-fans dont count here... they are all asleep sheeple

That song definitely kicks ASS! I think there's a lot of NIN songs I would recognize just by hearing either two notes or about two seconds of it.

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11/14/08 12:54 AM

Nothing will ever top The Fragile.

EVER!

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11/14/08 3:14 AM

I don't think I will ever get tired of Just Like You Imagined. It's almost like it sounds a little different every time you listen to it.

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11/16/08 8:47 PM

theirishorc posted:
The Fragile is hands down the most beautiful album ever created. I have so many memories when I listen to the songs. The lyrics throughout the album evoke such emotion!

I know, I feel the same way....smiling smiley


I love all NIN albums in different ways.
But there's something so special about The Fragile.

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