Way To Go, Trent, U The Man, And Very Compasionate To Others, A Damn Rare Thing These Days, Been A Big Fan Since "Pretty Hate Machine", Keep It Up, And I Agree "Marilyn Manson Is An Asshole"!

Just a question for anyone who knows...What is Street Sweeper Social Club doing for this? Tony Hawk gave some boards, Janes will be backstage and nin is nin. Is Mr. Morello too cool for this? Is the "band" too busy sounding like RATM and One Day As a Lion? I want to be wrong but for a cause this big the ideals Street Sweeper proclaim are just verbal shit but no action at all...

ArtsyBianca posted:

cinful posted:

And another thing that bothered me...I know that she (Veronica)was on there mainly about the healthcare problem, but Damn, when Juliet asked her SEVERAL times how she came up with A MILLION DOLLARS (and Veronica said that amount) all she could say was " I don't know" AND JULIET HAD TO ADD THAT TRENT AND NIN HAD DONE THIS, AND SHOWED A SMALL CLIP! If she would have stated how this was done, like the host was setting her up to lead it, they would have spent more time explaining how Trent and US who bought VIP and donated money did this, and couldnt have been done without Trent and Mariqueen! ( and Janes Addiction, Tony Hawk, etc..) I feel she is selfish and wrong not to answer the question....only to say "I don't know"...

Hmm, I don't know... (not a pun, I swear )

I have to disagree. After all, we didn't donate for the credit, but to save #ERIC's life and to send out a signal.

Besides, Veronica was on there to talk about her brother and her being very emotional might have found it hard to recall all the right things to say. I don't think she was trying to leave TR, NiN, Jane's Addiction, Tony Hawk, etc out of it.

They did show the site, at least.

As an after thought: Juliet's question to me seemed more rethorical, as though she was saying "How could any regular Joe ever come up with that kind of money?", so in that respect "I don't know", sounds like the right answer to me

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I have written a custom email to Senator Reid. I encourage everyone to do so also. Thank You.

sodakracka posted:

Nice job Trent. You've really accomplished something with this effort, and you've provided a model for other philanthropic causes and communities to follow. This is an excellent example of our broken health care system

-BUT-

If anyone on here thinks for one second that the newly proposed "ObamaCare" or universal health care (government takeover) is going fix problems like this, you are sadly mistaken. Take a look at the UK healthcare system. Tell me how thats workin' out for em'. If people think healthcare is expensive now, just wait until its free. The waiting time for Eric will double should we have universal healthcare (unless you know someone working for government). Its called healthcare rationing.

You just have to ask youself a simple question. Would you rather make choices about your healthcare provider, doctor, treatment, etc... OR a Washington DC beauracrat? Someone who is not a doctor and has not been trained in the medical field.

Just something to think about

Your logic is failed. Even if a given individual had to wait longer for an organ transplant, thousands of lives would be saved by simple medicines and procedures that most take for granted. For some antibiotics is nothing, and inexpensive product that they could afford any day of the week. But for thousands who can't afford it, it's a life saving medicine. There are tons of medicines and procedures that DO NOT have a waiting period at all. Some healthcare is better than NO healthcare. Therefore if thousands of people could be helped, SAVED, then isn't it worth the effort of establishing a universal healthcare plan?

Wake up and look at what is happening in the UK and Canada!! Seriously go look!

In a socialized health care system, Washington bureaucrats would have the ultimate decision over every health care decision and going to the doctor could resemble a trip to the DMV. Socialized systems stay afloat by rationing care and letting people die before their time. In the UK, patients who are diagnosed with cancer sometimes have to wait a year before their first chemotherapy treatment. Americans deserve a better approach for universal health care access, and should learn from the many FAILED attempts at socialized healthcare.

There is no question whatsoever that our current health care system is fundamentally broken and is badly in need of reform. No question. We have skyrocketing costs, and the rising insurance premiums required to pay for them, present the main obstacle to making sure that everyone in America has access to high-quality health care.

WHY is this happening? These crazy price increases are due to the lack of competition in the system! If patients actually had the choice and if health providers and insurance companies had to compete for patients, then medical fees and insurance premiums would decrease! For example, computers are twice as fast and half as expensive every year. What makes America great is the power of individual choice and innovation. Why shouldn’t our health care system reflect our core principles of freedom and choice?

Socialized, or nationalized, medicine/health care has been a gargantuan failure everywhere it has been implemented. Thinking OUR government is smarter than all the others who have failed is both arrogant and naive. Have we already forgotten the blundering messes Congress has made in just the past few weeks, such as the AIG bailout bonuses and trillion-dollar pork-ridden bills? And my health and your health were not part of those disasters (yet). Medicare has been an economic nightmare of waste, fraud, abuse, and inefficiencies to the tune of billions of dollars. Why would universal health care, run by our government, be presumed to be implemented better?

Private enterprise works. It inspires competition and innovation. Socialization does the opposite. Why work harder, create more, spend more time, and give better service when the slackers will benefit identically? Where is the incentive to cut costs and implement time-efficient methods if the government is funding the whole thing like a sugar daddy?

sodakracka posted:

Wake up and look at what is happening in the UK and Canada!! Seriously go look!

In a socialized health care system, Washington bureaucrats would have the ultimate decision over every health care decision and going to the doctor could resemble a trip to the DMV. Socialized systems stay afloat by rationing care and letting people die before their time. In the UK, patients who are diagnosed with cancer sometimes have to wait a year before their first chemotherapy treatment. Americans deserve a better approach for universal health care access, and should learn from the many FAILED attempts at socialized healthcare.

There is no question whatsoever that our current health care system is fundamentally broken and is badly in need of reform. No question. We have skyrocketing costs, and the rising insurance premiums required to pay for them, present the main obstacle to making sure that everyone in America has access to high-quality health care.

WHY is this happening? These crazy price increases are due to the lack of competition in the system! If patients actually had the choice and if health providers and insurance companies had to compete for patients, then medical fees and insurance premiums would decrease! For example, computers are twice as fast and half as expensive every year. What makes America great is the power of individual choice and innovation. Why shouldn’t our health care system reflect our core principles of freedom and choice?

Socialized, or nationalized, medicine/health care has been a gargantuan failure everywhere it has been implemented. Thinking OUR government is smarter than all the others who have failed is both arrogant and naive. Have we already forgotten the blundering messes Congress has made in just the past few weeks, such as the AIG bailout bonuses and trillion-dollar pork-ridden bills? And my health and your health were not part of those disasters (yet). Medicare has been an economic nightmare of waste, fraud, abuse, and inefficiencies to the tune of billions of dollars. Why would universal health care, run by our government, be presumed to be implemented better?

Private enterprise works. It inspires competition and innovation. Socialization does the opposite. Why work harder, create more, spend more time, and give better service when the slackers will benefit identically? Where is the incentive to cut costs and implement time-efficient methods if the government is funding the whole thing like a sugar daddy?

Do YOU work in the medical field? I'm a Canadian and an RN. Yes people have to wait for medical care but they DO GET IT. Regardless how much money they have. Here is one thing about the waits too....lets say someone as sick as Eric needed the transplant he would immidiately be put in hospital and on the list in Canada. It took YOUR healthcare system to wait till he had the money. If you are critically ill you will get the care you need quick. Have you even been to the UK or Canada and seen one on one how the system works? It doesn't sound like you have...if you need stitches ya you might have to wait a while to get them because there are people who have been in MVAs or have GSWs that need to be seen first. I have been to the states and your wait times aren't all that different from ours. Stop trying to argue about something you really know nothing about. Unless, like me, you work on the frontlines and have been to each of these countries, which I have, just stop.

That really is a tear of joy to see that people do care! The health care system does suck. My father died 4 years ago from heart complications. He needed a major surgery -because he had been on disability for quite some time and could not afford insurance, we did not have enough money to pay for his surgery. He ended up on life support so my brothers & I decided to let him go so he would not suffer the evils of the almighty $$$ DOLLARS. We all worked full time jobs to help pay, but could not make enough before it was too late. My efforts could not save my father, but I am happy to see that people do have the compassion to help this man in particular.

I actually just signed up as a member for this website, fortunatly at a good time. It really sickens me how our health system is ran. EVERYONE deserves proper treatment no matter how much money they have or who they are.
It's really awesome though how people can come together like this for someone in need. I'd personally like to thank everyone who has helped, even though the only knowledge I have about anyone is on this site. It makes me feel that with hope and people like you, someday our health systems will get better.
My question is, where and how exactly do I send a donation? I've only seen how to sent the senator a letter (which I am most certainly going to do), however I'm not sure exactly how to donate. Can someone please let me know?

I'm extremely healthy, and extremely grateful for the luxury.

I took my mother with me for a routine blood work, a few years ago. I later had to ask my doctor why our results were apparently switched. She needed a thyroid test, but I had results for one, and she didn't. His reply? "Well, we just won't do any on YOU at ALL next time---how about that? THEN they won't be switched."
---WTF???
Of course he's no longer my doctor. And of course there were no WITNESSES to that incident.

Uh... who was bitching about Trent's reference to the "uncaring" health care system--? Are ya KIDDING? I can't knock every single person in the field--of course not. Some are undoubtedly fighting the vailant fight, banging their head on a wall... But the system, and MANY of the members, are borderline EVIL.

Personally, I'm looking into herbal medicine... but I think that's partially afforded me by the "luxury" of being healthy to begin with. Good luck, Mr. Cruz!! I'm thrilled to contribute what I can.

waltergtab posted:

hEY TRENT, MY NAME IS wgy, I JUST WANT TO SAY FUCK YOU AND YOUR LAST SHOW IN THE U.S.. WHY DO YOU HAVE TO STOP NOW? YOUR MUSIC IS WOUNDIULL I HAD A HARD CHILDHOOD GOING UP AND YOUR MUSIC, YOU HELP ME GET WHERE I'M AT TODAY. aND NOW YOU ARE GOING TO FUCKING QUICK. I LIVE IN VIRGINIA I WANTED TO SEE YOUR SHOW IN CHARLOTTE NC, IT WOULD BEEN MY ONLY CHANCE TO SEE THE WAVE GOOD TOUR. BUT ITS TOO LATE. I HAVE 1 1/2 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER NOW AND A BOY ON THE WAY AND A BITCHY WOMEN WHO WENT ON A CAMPINGTRIP. I THOUGHT YOUR SHOW,CHARLOTTE NC , WAS 6-13-09 BUT I FUCK ON THE TIMEING.THANK YOU FOR BEING APART OF MY LIFE WHEN I NEEDED SOMEONE AND I HAD NO ONE BUT YOUR MUSIC. I'M GOING TO MISS YOU AND NINE INCH NAILS. YOU HAVE THE BIGEST PART OF MY LIFE AND IT IS HURTING TO KNOW THIS IS IT. I AM 28 YEARS OLD, I HERD MY FIRST TRACK OF YOURS,I WAS 12 YEARS OLD.
AfTER MY BROTHERS ABOUT BURN TO DEATH. YOU TRENT REZNOR HAS HELP ME TO GET THRU LIFE WITH YOUR MUSIC AND I AM GO TO MISS YOU.

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Your 28 and that is your english and grammar skills, AND you are procreating?
Holy shit

I gotta say once more that I dont get why this is so damn expensive over there. We do also have problems with getting enough donors here in Norway, but my aunt had to go trough an operation where she replaced half of her heart. Healthcare is free here, she only had to pay an individual share of around 30 US dollars:/

Best wishes for Eric

I was too late on getting a vip package for London FML.

I'm probably weird, but I can't wait to hear news of little Trent Juniors running around XD

If ANYONE should procreate, I'd think it should be him




...What..? Stop staring at me... o_O