Well that was fun...:-(. Oh well. There is still the pubic sale to look forward to. And if that doesn't work, then hey, I was lucky enough to meet the guy in May so there is really no way to top that. I just kind of, sort of, just a wee bit wish they would have done presales for the different cities on different nights? Makes a bit more sense? But like I said I'm not going to complain (too much :-)).

kir1984 posted:

funkwoman posted:

maybe we can bring the scalper mailboxes to their knees. imagine if all the disgruntled fans here offered them $1 for their scalped tickets? clearing 10,000 messages from email will take quite some time

Exactly, man. Let us take this one step further though - If NIN.com is so adverse to scalping, exactly what is being done about the ridiculous amount of tickets being flagrantly scalped on ebay, craigslist, stubhub etc etc? I've been a huuuggee fan for over 15 years, attempted to click on the site the nanosecond it turned 5:00pm and came up empty-handed. This system has only given more power to the scalpers who make it their business, literally, to get these tickets. It's a big FU to the fans. It could have been done in a much better way if the fans were the real concern here.

And what is this I hear about the Trent disengaging from Twitter? This is such incredible bullshit - Ten minutes after 5pm when I realized it was going to be hopeless, I checked into his Twitter page and got the "page doesn't exist" message. I find it hard to believe he was being harrassed into exile 10 minutes after the pre-sale - this is all phony posturing PR nonsense. He's a smart man, he knows what he's doing and our bitching and complaining on Twitter and here and the internet I'm sure is not hurting his feelings. He's got a life, he does not give a crap. And I'm sure he doesn't have time to read any of this stuff on the site anyway - Every once in awhile he'll post to make it seem like he's involved, but I'm sure the guy does not have time to spend hours sifting through what is essentially fan mail. It's all advertising.

This is the business of show, my friends. At this point, I'm so disappointed that I don't care to spend the energy even being disappointed. I'll play my cd's (yes, I said cd's) and remember the FREE surprise show for the fans he did in Irving Plaza around '96 that he announced the morning of that I called in sick to work to wait in line for and saw the most incredible show with Marilyn Manson and Meat Beat Manifesto from about five feet away - Now that was real fan appreciation. I'm so pissed off. Perhaps I do have some more energy to spend being disappointed. wah.

Seriously people. Stop acting likes it's the end of the world. There were too many fans trying to get too few tickets. It's obvious you needed to already be on the ticketing page before the site got flooded with hits. It's going to take some time and a few tries to work out the kinks in a system that is designed to combat human greed. People will always find a way around the rules to feed their greed. I'm actually pretty impressed that a number of people are trading tickets or bought 2 so a "real fan" could come with them.

If you were in the "waiting area" when the tix went on sale, it was like a raffle. Those that got let into the "queue" were there because the luck of the draw. Sometimes you win a prize, sometimes you don't and there's no sense burning down the amusment park because you're feelings are hurt.

Don't ruin your memories of 20 years of the greatest music ever made just because there are too many fans to go to 10 "intimate" shows. NIN has fans throughout the world. I'm flying from Louisville, KY to L.A. so my wife and I can see them again. THERE WERE ONLY ABOUT 15,000 TOTAL TIX TO THESE SHOWS! SO DON'T BLAME ANYONE BUT FATE, LUCK, GOD...ETC.

I applaud Trent's efforts to keep scalping to a minimum. Unfortunately, that doesn't stop those people from grabbing as many tickets as they can and then instantly putting them on eBay or Stubhub or Craigslist. The two ticket limit, the fact that it's all will call with no picking the tickets up and then standing outside to sell them or picking them up and then handing them off to the people who bought the tickets via one of the previous mentioned scalping sites is cutting edge as usual, but it also means that for every ticket that's posted online that means that many less people at the show. I wasn't one of the lucky ones who was able to purchase a ticket yesterday. I wasn't even able to get into the site at 4:10 PM, almost an hour prior to the tickets going on sale. I will say this, though, I don't think it's fair to blame this all on nin.com or Trent Reznor, they did what they could and have tried to make this more about the fans than any band out there right now. I DO agree that the presales for each city should have been done on different nights to possibly deter from the crashes that most of us experienced, but, there still would have been hundreds of people left out in the cold. When you're one of the biggest bands in the world it's damn near impossible to please everybody. There's always going to be a lot of kinks in something that's basically beta. How many bands do you know try and do this? Yeah, about none, right? At least Trent's taken it upon himself to really push and advocate self-promotion and self-marketing (check out everything he's done since he left Interscope and the message board topic of what he would recommend if you're an up and coming band). Hopefully, bands will see how successful these presales and non-scalper friendly methods can be and work off of that. With Ticketmaster, Stubhub, LiveNation, Craigslist, and eBay pretty much forming unholy alliances to rape us of our recession penny, we need bands like NIN and individuals like Trent Reznor to help us out as much as possible, and in turn, we need to help them/him out by supporting the cause even if it doesn't directly benefit us at the time.

dprovidenti posted:

Tickets for these final shows should have been a random lottery drawing from a pool registered NIN members. Two tickets per drawing only. You win the prize -you get a confirmation email with your ticket info.

Exactly what I said this morning. There should have been a way to register for the lottery and if you didn't respond to your email w/in 24 hrs, the tix go back in the draw.

danalunafae posted:

I am so sorry that so many fans didn't get tickets. This ticket buying system was absolute mayhem. I can't believe I got 2 tickets to Bowery. I am very grateful.

I was completely shut-out of the NY and Chicago shows. In fact, it kept telling me there was no such site as nin.com. But the stars aligned for me and I was lucky enough to get 2 tix to both the Wiltern and the Echoplex. I will never forget these shows. I'm trying to think of a more emphatic word than grateful.

deadblue posted:

Thorazinedream posted:

danalunafae posted:

I got 2 tickets to Bowery Ballroom, by pure luck. I logged in at around 4:40, and the website started to crash around 4:45. I had to keep refreshing and logging back in. I was freaking out, and I thought for sure I wasn't going to get tickets. Around 4:50-4:55, I clicked on the link for the Bowery show, and I was brought to a waiting area. At exactly 5:00 I was automatically directed to the ticket buying area. I couldn't believe it. My heart was racing and my fingers were shaking. This will be my sixth NIN show (my first was Hammerstein 2005). I am beyond excited.

same exact thing happend to me...and i some how scored tickets to the webster hall show also. But for real, I had a feeling the site was going to crash like it did. Sorry to all who didn't even get a shot

P.S. Fuck stub hub and the filthy scalper pricks who ruin it for the real fans.

so,if you clicked on link before 5:00 you would have gotten tickets?....NOW THATS BULLSHIT!!!

I kept clicking on the link for the bowery show, and opening into a new window, and closing it, over and over again (from 4:50-4:55). I think around 4:55 or 4:57, after clicking on the bowery link and opening in a new window, the screen now had a turning clock at the top, and it said that I was in the waiting area. When it turned exactly 5:00, I got in to buy tickets. I can't believe it. My heart goes out to all of you who couldn't get in.

TOTAL FUCKING BULLSHITT!!!!!!!! THEY PUT YOU IN A WAITING ROOM BEFORE IT REACHED 5:00 WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!!! NOW PEOPLE ARE ON EBAY SELLING OR TRYING TO SELL TIX UP TO $4,0000

i need to vent...sorry.

If you missed on tix, there is still Toronto. [www.virginfestival.ca]

The ticketing system that was used is not designed to handle such a heavy rush of people trying to get so few tickets. While I know that just about everyone here hates to see tickets being resold, but I, for one, do not have any issues with it. I was lucky enough to get a ticket to their final show and a pair for the Wiltern show in LA. I am from Philadelphia and making the trip for their final 2 shows ever. I am also going to the NY shows. I was planning to go to all 4 NY shows but was not able to get tickets to any of them during presale because the site crashed by the time I got on it. That is tough luck and it sucks. But without someone willing to sell their tickets, I would not even have a chance to see the shows. I am hoping to get tickets to the 2 Terminal 5 shows during public sale and will have to pay a broker for either the Bowery or Webster hall show. While it may suck to pay $750+ for a single ticket, for me, it is a better option than not to be able to go at all. Without someone willing to sell a ticket, I would have zero chance to see one of the 2 intimate shows in NY. While I realize that not everyone can afford to drop $1K for a concert, but I strongly believe those that can should be allowed to do it. NIN has and always will be my favorite band and I have seen them roughly 30-35 times in concert and could not imagine not seeing them on these shows.

Bottom line is this: When you trying to get tickets to a venue that holds 500 people and there are tens of thousands of people trying to get them, most of us are going to be shut out at all times. It is simple math. I just don't see why so many people get worked up when someone is willing to pay marked up prices. For me, it is a better option than not even having the opportunity to see the show.

Also....Just in case I missed it or forgot to ask? Does anyone on here know how good of a venue the Henry Fonda Theatre is? Its whereabouts? The sound in there? The camera policy? BUT I guess I will just have to call up there before and find out, hopefully after Trent has a talk with them about filming - Just looking to get an idea, hopefully from some people with past experience - Thanks Again!

You may not be able to blame Trent for the bad ticketing system and the scalpers but you can blame him for playing in a 600 capacity, 1400 capacity and 3000 capacity venue in NYC. Maybe 1/20 of his fans have a chance to see him.

I don't get you people. Seriously..bitching about scalpers and TR. How about bitch about and to the assholes on this forum offering lots of $$ for tix cause they didn't get any. I have seen so many of these fucking posts. THEY ARE THE REASON SCALPERS DO WHAT THEY DO. How about kicking their ass. If not this problem will never go away because you were too pussy to do something about it. A few posts back a dude offered to pay anything, do anything. Are you guys fucking blind to this? Everyone is all talk but no action.

I was in the hold queue hours before the LA tickets went on sale. At 5:00 I got a "click here for tickets" button for about 1/2 second, then it went to an ICAP error.. I don't know if it was the ticketing computers or my stupid-ass work computers but what can I say?? I tried hard and didn't get the luck of the draw. Am I pissed? yes. Is it the first time I've gotten screwed at ticket time? NO. Is it the last time? No. Shoot.... about a month ago Tool tickets went on sale here.. I bought exactly at 10:00 on sale time and the best tix available were upper-level seats. I bought them. I looked yesterday and there are now floor seats available. Go figure..

Shit happens, I'm devastated, but life will go on.

Calderon08 posted:

I don't get you people. Seriously..bitching about scalpers and TR. How about bitch about and to the assholes on this forum offering lots of $$ for tix cause they didn't get any. I have seen so many of these fucking posts. THEY ARE THE REASON SCALPERS DO WHAT THEY DO. How about kicking their ass. If not this problem will never go away because you were too pussy to do something about it. A few posts back a dude offered to pay anything, do anything. Are you guys fucking blind to this? Everyone is all talk but no action.

So what exactly is your solution?? Do you even realize how many scalpers are out there??? Let me know how your ass kicking plan goes. But as long as there is $$ to be made, someone will be selling tickets. If you are not willing to pay, that is fine. But I do have a right to pay a premium if I am willing to pay it because I want to be at the show.