We're In This Together Now Music VIdeo
 

07/18/09 10:15 PM

This thread is going to be about the We're In This Together Now Music Video.

I have a few questions about some of the people in the video hopefully someone might have an idea who they are and/or what they represent.

First:
There's a girl with blonde hair who Trent see's onboard the train. He gets very happy to see her. Then it fades away to the desert as he gets pushed out of the train.

Second: The elderly indians? / tribal people (didnt mean that to be derogatory sorry). I kinda see the song as one about a relationship but at the same time what do these people represent?

Third: Why the sausage fest? Not implying trent's gay (he's engaged but i've been on the nin forums long enough to know what i need to address before people start cannibalizing my words). I have a few references to what it might be but those elderly tribal people holding hands make it seem like the song is about something else entirely.
At first i thought it was about Trent and the girl he's with when he wrote the song. Them getting older and dying together. But then i noticed there are many of tribal-like people on the train.

The whole train thing feels almost Gestapo like. Maybe he's referring to some other kind of massacre?
I swear if this where any other artist i would let it go but its NIN so i gotta get to the bottom!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/18/2009 10:16PM by cryosin.

 

07/18/09 11:29 PM

I really liked this video too but I didn't really understand it that much. All I know is that it's supposed to be a reference, or tribute even, to a movie called Metropolis that was made in 1927.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/18/2009 11:30PM by Allendorf.

 

07/18/09 11:48 PM

Well... the video was filmed in Guadalajara, Mexico so perhaps the tribal people (also don't know the right words) are natives of the area(just a guess) and all these people running for the trains dont even notice or care for the natives. They all just push, shove and stop at nothing to reach their "goal" without regard for others. The natives realize that they can not stop what has begun so they lose their heritage and submit to the popular decision. Well im just guessing.

 

07/19/09 1:57 AM

I don't wanna sound too cliche, but after watching the video a few times I think it's safe to say there's numerous ways of perceiving it. So there likely aren't many, if any wrong ways to interpret the scenes you described, Cryosin. I'm sorry I can't give a better explanation at the moment. But hopefully that gave you some more insight.

 

07/19/09 3:02 AM

I don't think that the video has a "secret" meaning at all, I think that it is just a cool concept (as someone has said before the video is partially inspired by Fritz Lang's Metropolis). The video is similar to a previous Massive Attack's video:

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07/19/09 8:15 AM

^I love the Angel video (and analogue (?) drums)

Theres two versions of this video out there, both are great. But I'm curious about the symbolism too. Reznor wouldnt just throw out empty imagery. I cant think of a post-Closer video without it.



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07/19/09 10:02 AM

Can't offer any insight into the deeper meanings and symbolism of the video but I agree it is completely awesome - one of the best out there. Seems to have a kind of apocalyptic theme - perhaps a forerunner for Year Zero?!

 

07/19/09 12:55 PM

i personally think this video was made just so the average mtv viewer remembered the name of the artist and bought the album (who? nine inch nails? what? the fragile?)

 

07/19/09 1:31 PM

I've no clue either, though I've always thought the older native mexican women in the video represent pestilence, or sickness, due to their inflictions. (one was blind it looked like).
And the running crowd to me was like trying to fit in the daily routine, running so as not to be looked down upon as different. Or the running might represent something you follow for the sake of following, but your heart's not really in it (Trent constantly looking back). And then realizing it was all in vain to try to follow along anyways, since they all dissapeared. (the piles of clothes in the desert).
Other than that, i never really got a sense of story from the vid. And the fleeting glimpse of the blonde girl is intruiguing. Who is she? What does she mean to him? Why so small of a part in the video? You'd think she's the person he's talking to through the lyrics. But apparently not in the vid.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/19/2009 01:38PM by Hydranokaori.

 

07/19/09 10:27 PM

BenAkenobi posted:
i personally think this video was made just so the average mtv viewer remembered the name of the artist and bought the album (who? nine inch nails? what? the fragile?)

Ya so people would buy his albums and he could become a multi-millionare right?

He hit the epitome of consumer-raping after releasing The Slip.

/end sarcasm

 

09/06/09 3:03 PM

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09/06/09 3:21 PM

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09/06/09 3:22 PM

Allendorf posted:
I really liked this video too but I didn't really understand it that much. All I know is that it's supposed to be a reference, or tribute even, to a movie called Metropolis that was made in 1927.
indeed. not that wiki is the best reference but it sums it up: [en.wikipedia.org]

 

09/07/09 7:55 PM

This was the first Nine Inch Nails video I bought to put on my iPod.

There is one overall meaning to me, from the song and from the video. And I'll explain this one overall meaning by using one expression: Hanging on by a thread.

When you're being pushed to the breaking point, you can accomplish great things. Humans, in general, are this way in nature. In the video, Trent and a thousand others are running from something. It doesn't matter what that thing is... to me they're running away from something epic, maybe humanity, maybe the apocalypse. Maybe even from their own minor problems, maybe running from their past and the horrible things in it. Maybe they're running for their future. Trent looks worried, though, and I think that he's trying really hard to make it; thus hanging on by a thread. Life sucks sometimes, and we all run from it in different ways.

The Indians in the video are somewhat surprising to me; I didn't really expect to see them. But Native Indians, to me, have a wise, nurting quality to them. A sort of caring and understanding that only someone who has been through a lot could understand. And they also seem to live the simple life. I'm not referencing to modern-day Natives, just saying that, in general, I think the peace and simplicity of the Native American race is slowly dying in today's world. And in the video We're In This Together, I think that all of the characters are really only one character - Trent. Sort of like a delusional thing, like Into The Void. "Tried to save myself but myself keeps slipping." "Talking to myself all the way to the station..." They are a thousand of him facing a thousand different problems. And now they're running to find the 'simple life', that of the Natives. They're running away from the chaos that is their old world.

I agree with Ferabad, though; I don't think there is one overall extreme meaning. This is just my interpretation. I have thought of this video having different meanings before, but I like this one. I also think of it all as a love-relationship. Maybe one with problems. And one that they obviously have been through trials together and they have finally come to the realization that they'll always be together. Whether in this life or the next. This idea is a little off of the video, but its' my other favorite.

So there's some of my interpretations. Hope you enjoyed. Awesome vid, probably my favorite NIN video. smiling smiley

 

09/08/09 2:13 AM

Sausage-fest? Who really cares if the video is full of guys? He didn't look happy until he caught a glimpse of the girl anyways. I also think the Mark Pellington edit is much better than the original. Search it on YouTube, you might feel the same.

 

09/08/09 6:19 AM

Metropolis is a cool movie, what with all the workers being treated as subhuman, wearing the same clothes, being shoved around in elevators and stuff, I can see the similarities. And the girl fits in also as a sort of modern Maria, who was the hero/female savior of the workers in Metropolis.

 

09/08/09 9:22 AM

cryosin posted:
At first i thought it was about Trent and the girl he's with when he wrote the song. Them getting older and dying together.

since most of The Fragile seems to be about the emotional/mental results of TR's grandmother's death [certainly not a "be-all, end-all" suggestion, but that's how i perceive most of the lyrics, and i think every song backs it up], i think the song itself is about that last clinging feeling we have with the ones we love: "as long as we stay together through this, we will be fine." granted, the king and queen Bowie reference makes it weirder, but i think i refuse to accept WITT as a [romantic] relationship song!

the video, though, is a whole other beast. not that many NIN videos (or music videos in general) have anything to do with the lyrics, so i wouldn't associate the words with the images so quickly. they seem to have themes in common, but the video seems to be reinterpreting this Metropolis film.

have you seen the extended director's cut? maybe there's something in there that can help.

 

09/08/09 1:59 PM

Probably my favorite music video by NIN.

Just like the song, I think the video is about the effects of abandonment and instability...falling apart I don't think it's "we're in this together because i love you", I see it more as "we're in this together, right? everything will be okay, please don't fall apart, please don't leave me" (hope that makes sense).

I always saw the elderly as one of the "wretched" described earlier in the album. The mass people people running represents a situation that you cling on to after being abandoned, or as Trent described "a situation that is flawed, and could fall apart at any moment". In the video Trent looks confused and lost. You don't know where you're going with the situation, but it's the only thing you have. In end, you end up abandoned and alone once again.

Just my two cents/



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09/09/09 4:13 PM

Well, when I saw this video I thought "end of the world" scenario and the indians kind of rung a bell in my mind with Mayans and 2012. This is just something that got personally connected in my head when I saw the video, connecting some interests I had.

 

09/09/09 5:36 PM

I like the unedited cut where you can see a lot of naked guys running and jumping in the desert at the end.spinning smiley sticking its tongue out

 

09/09/09 9:28 PM

seasonsinthesky posted:
cryosin posted:
At first i thought it was about Trent and the girl he's with when he wrote the song. Them getting older and dying together.

since most of The Fragile seems to be about the emotional/mental results of TR's grandmother's death [certainly not a "be-all, end-all" suggestion, but that's how i perceive most of the lyrics, and i think every song backs it up], i think the song itself is about that last clinging feeling we have with the ones we love: "as long as we stay together through this, we will be fine." granted, the king and queen Bowie reference makes it weirder, but i think i refuse to accept WITT as a [romantic] relationship song!

the video, though, is a whole other beast. not that many NIN videos (or music videos in general) have anything to do with the lyrics, so i wouldn't associate the words with the images so quickly. they seem to have themes in common, but the video seems to be reinterpreting this Metropolis film.

have you seen the extended director's cut? maybe there's something in there that can help.

Great ideas here.
Firstly, I totally agree. Not every NIN song or video is exactly specific as to the meaning and/or the imagery placed with the lyrics and ideas. However, WITT is still a great song. And secondly, I have mixed feelings. I somewhat agree, WITT doesn't seem like a relationship type song, and at the same time it's the most relationship type song that NIN has, for me. WITT is 'our' song, my girlfriend and I. So I'm half and half on the relationship part there...

Anyways, awesome song, and probably my fav. NIN video as well. I loved Deep, but WITT is a better music video. And I have NOT seen the Directors' cut of it... where can I find that?

 

09/09/09 9:30 PM

ningamer posted:
...Just like the song, I think the video is about the effects of abandonment and instability...falling apart I don't think it's "we're in this together because i love you", I see it more as "we're in this together, right? everything will be okay, please don't fall apart, please don't leave me" (hope that makes sense)...

Awesome. I agree. winking smiley

 
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