ChaseNine posted:

OH and finally... WHOEVER THE FUCK started saying that Still is a compilation of 'OUTTAKES'........ FUCK YOU! It is a collection of songs that have been redone, and the mood that is meant to subsede is far from that of an outtake.

first of all, calm the fuck down you moron

second, what the fuck does "the mood that is meant to subsede is far from that of an outtake" even fucking mean? it's complete gibberish.

finally, it's BOTH outtakes and redone material. it contains music written during the fragile sessions, redone versions of old songs, and music that was initially intended for the score to the film ONE HOUR PHOTO

IS EVERYBODY ALL RIGHT IN HERE?

nin wiki - Still

botleysmith posted:

You're right; most of the instrumentals on Still were written for Mark Romanek's One Hour Photo but were rejected. Of all the outtakes to emerge from The Fragile sessions, the only one that has been officially labelled as such is "The Great Collapse". But Trent did comment on the old nin.com that "Adrift and At Peace" completed the We're In This Together/Into the Void/La Mer motif, and there are melodic & lyric similarities between "The Great Below" and "And All That Could Have Been". Make of that what you will.

I'm not sure that "Deep" was specifically composed for Lara Croft: Tomb Raider, because some interviews with Reznor from late 2000/early 2001 said he was writing stuff for NIN that was minimal/brutal, a la "Deep". Of course he resumed that project in 2004 after taking time off to get sober. It was supposed to be called Bleedthrough and then changed names to With Teeth.

So if anything, "Deep" is a With Teeth precursor, not a Fragile appendix.

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Alright. Sure. ty, jezstyle.

if i were to guess wildly, anomaly sounds like a good working title for non entity

ChaseNine posted:

seeingred posted:

if i were to guess wildly, anomaly sounds like a good working title for non entity

I would probably agree, but non-entity is a b-side for with_teeth, so Idk. It could be, but I doubt it. At least for a reissue of TF. Or did you not mean that......?

uhhhh

seasonsinthesky posted:

Anomaly was proven to be The Way Out is Through, because the NIN crew uploaded a photo of TWOIT's tracking sheet, and the title on the screen was "ANOMALY"

seasonsinthesky posted:

ChaseNine posted:

seeingred posted:

if i were to guess wildly, anomaly sounds like a good working title for non entity

I would probably agree, but non-entity is a b-side for with_teeth, so Idk. It could be, but I doubt it. At least for a reissue of TF. Or did you not mean that......?

uhhhh

seasonsinthesky posted:

Anomaly was proven to be The Way Out is Through, because the NIN crew uploaded a photo of TWOIT's tracking sheet, and the title on the screen was "ANOMALY"

see this is the kind of thing where being proven wrong is actually evidence that you have a life

Don't you love the original's pure roughness? I'm sure (or should i say i hope) remastering and remixing means just surround version, retouching of stereo CD version is only (barely) needed for some (very few) transitions between songs.

If it ain't Broken then it don't need to be Fixed

New material would be cool though. And by "we" do they mean INTERSCOPE? Or just NIN CAMP?

Personally, I'm hoping that it will be a "revised and extended edition" sort of deal with all B-Sides incorporated into their intended places on the album. I've personally been working on something like this for the past month (as well as a "revised and extended" edition of TDS) to turn TF into the way it was originally intended to be before all of the cuts were made. There's even a place for the cover of Gary Numan's "Metal" on TF that can raise an eyebrow, although I doubt we'll see that one incorporated into the side I put it on.

"The Wretched" was a much longer song than what was finally released. "The Great Collapse" was the rest of the song broken off from it, so it has it's place on TF. It's not a remix. (I'm sure someone here already knows this, but still, it bears some discussion I think.) I'm limited on what I can do to complete the song in my "revised and extended" version because, basically, there aren't any multi-tracks out there for TF (except for one "unofficial" one I dug up for "The Big Come Down" that's about as old as TF itself; it doesn't do me any good for such a project like I've been working on). The best any Joe-Schmoe can do to put the two pieces together would be to cross fade the two separate entities as best as possible and use it as more of a segue that completes the previous song.

It's the same story with "Into The Void." "Slipping Away" was, once again, the rest of the song that had to be cut off.

Hopefully, completed original versions of "Adrift and at Peace" (La Mer's conclusion/ending part) and "And All That Could Have Been" (which is more of a second act to "The Great Below" than the "rest of the story" like the previous tracks I've mentioned; which shouldn't have been scrapped anyhow as it is an incredible song) and a CD quality version of "appendage" makes their way to the upcoming Ultimate version of TF and go in their correct places (same for "Ten Miles High" and "The New Flesh" ).

It's certainly better than having some jumbled-up disc of stuff that should have been on the actual album itself thrown in for the fuck of it. I don't see how anyone could think otherwise. I'm hoping TF isn't remastered in Surround Sound and there's that jumbled up mess that preceeds the Left and Right discs.

I'm OK with an additional disc of remixes and demos. I just don't want to see any of the songs I mentioned earlier on it.

I don't think Universal, Interscope, or whoever is paying Reznor for this. They weren't before. So I'd count on this being leaked as a torrent for d/l. If I'm wrong on that, I don't want to see the price tag for it in a record store. Most places charge twenty bucks for it already.



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anunknownpresence posted:

I don't want to see the price tag for it in a record store.

o_O

So you're telling us that The fragile is "too special" to be sold in stores? How snobby.

actually, TR could negotiate them to make it not too expensive, like a special paragraph in contract agreement or something...

I would love to hear more unreleased tracks from the era!

scott_pawsey posted:

Had a good meeting today about the @nineinchnails #TheFragile deluxe edition. It's going to be a hell of a project... (no, no details!)
7 minutes ago from TweetDeck

From Rob's twitter.

Oh, that Rob! Not giving anything away.
I'm thinking it will be something with multiple prices based on just that..

EDIT: Never mind. Grabbed a copy.



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DSP_2 posted:

I hope they release The fragile and Still in higher quality together in some sort of a deluxe package.

Still already was in deluxe halo 17, so it's hard to talk about direct inclusion. But some versions would be sweet. I'm guessing Rob was excited about artwork/video content. Audio simply isn't his job.